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Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2017, 12:34:06 AM »
From the original post by Byteball dev tonych here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg17566450#msg17566450


We'll have our 2nd distribution round under the Full Moon, on 11th of February at 0:33 UTC.
We will probably follow the Full Moon calendar for future rounds too.

Bitcoin snapshot will be taken in the first block after the date.
Snapshot of Byteball database will be taken on exactly this date and will include only final transactions.

The transition bot is already working (find the link at https://byteball.org), chat with it to link your Bitcoin address and check the currently linked addresses and their balances.  If you participated in the 1st round, your linked addresses stay the same, you don't need to link again.

The distribution rules:

BTC to bytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 62.5 MB (0.0625 GB)
BTC to blackbytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 2.1111 * 62.5 million blackbytes (money supply of blackbytes is 2.1111 times more than that of bytes)
Bytes to bytes: 1 byte on any Byteball address gives you 0.1 new bytes
Bytes to blackbytes: 1 byte on linked Byteball address gives you 0.21111 blackbytes

If you already hold bytes, please move them to one of the linked BB addresses (chat with the bot to learn what your linked addresses are) before the distribution date to receive your share of blackbytes.  This is a technicall necessity that follows from how blackbytes work: we need to send the private payloads to your device and we know only the device address of the linked BB address, not of any other BB address.  If you don't care about blackbbytes for some reason, you don't need to do anything.  If you didn't touch your bytes after the 1st round (i.e. didn't send or receive a single transaction), you also don't need to do anything since all your bytes are still on the linked address.

Blackbytes that remain undistributed because some people didn't move their bytes to the linked address, will be transferred to a development fund which will be used to pay for future promotion and development.

In this round and at the current market prices, bytes give you a much larger share in the distribution than Bitcoins.  For example, holding 1 GB gives you the same as holding 1.6 BTC:
1 GB -> 0.1 GB
1.6 BTC -> 1.6 * 0.0625 = 0.1 GB
This is one of the nice things about being an early adopter.

Chat with the bot to check the current status or link new Bitcoin addresses and don't forget to move your Bitcoins and Bytes to the linked addresses before the February Full Moon.
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Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2017, 07:48:08 PM »
Some more Q & A from the main post on BCT forums here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.0
Q = question from a poster.
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Q: How will this change going forward regarding the witnesses?  I mean in the selecting of the 12, how long do you plan to carry the whole network?

So if I understand correctly the witnesses are the ones who receive the payload commissions for each transaction. 
Where can we find the info on how much commission are being generated for each transaction?

What about the headers commissions where can we find this for each transaction?


A: You can see all fees in the explorer https://explorer.byteball.org


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A: To secure against loss of the wallet, I recommend that you use multisig.  For example, 1-of-2 multisig with one wallet on the phone, the other on a desktop computer.  This way, the private assets will be automatically copied to the two devices.

Q: Interesting, will it work if one of the devices is offline?

A: Yes.


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Q:Uncaught Error: More than one instance of bitcore-lib found. Please make sure to require bitcore-lib and check that submodules do not also include their own bitcore-lib dependency.

Secp256k1 bindings are not compiled. Pure JS implementation will be used.


A: Please make sure that the program is started from "C:\Program Files", not "c:\Program Files" (with capital C).  If it is not, edit the paths on the start icon.  There is one oddity in how node.js works on Windows.


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Q: Was there a peer review of "private untraceable payments"* claim?

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* - taken from the title

A: I proposed similar idea in bitcoin-dev mailing list and it was discussed there.  One of the responses is from Peter Todd https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-August/012956.html, see others too.

Also there was a technical discussion at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574508 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1298588.0


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Q: I am really interested in seeing some Byteball smart contracts in action. Specifically I would like to know if it is possible to implement a Double Deposit Escrow contract using Blackbytes?
A: Smart contracts are already in action on the trustless exchange on testnet https://byteball.org/testnet.html.

It is possible to implement a better contract than Double Deposit Escrow, see the fedex example above.


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Q: With Bitcoin and most altcoin wallets you can send a transaction before they are fully synced provided the wallet shows it contains your coins. Is byteball the same?
A: Yes, you can (if the outputs you are going to spend are already in your copy of the DAG).


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Q: Byteball uses witnesses. There are 2 ways to choose the witnesses:

1. They are picked by every user for himself
2. They are elected via global voting

If it's #1 then it becomes possible that some users are almost isolated from each other because they have only few common witnesses. #2 leads to a more serious problem which arises if a user is faced with more than 2 options (just google why it's a serious problem, there should be many links with mathematical proofs on impossibility of coming to a satisfying consensus). The problem of picking an option has already striked twice in the cryptoindustry. First it was Ripple/Stellar consensus flaw drama when Stellar admitted to have a flawed consensus while Ripple decided to make appearance they were fine (heh, they had enough money not to care about community opinion). The second time which I remember it was Factom drama, now I can't find the links, but in few words: they "sold" a flawed voting mechanism which was unfixable because they allowed more than 2 options.

So my concern is that cryptocoin developers don't take voting seriosly. I noticed this several years ago in Bitshares. Back then I was thinking that voting is easy, only after working with two professors (on two separate tasks) who were specializing in voting I got that it's all actually not that simple...


A: Voting is not easy indeed, and there is no voting in Byteball consensus.  Instead, there is a requirement that witness lists of neighboring (and not just neighboring - see the white paper for details) units on the DAG are compatible.  Compatible means that they differ by no more than one mutation.  This is similar to biology where the genes of a parent and child are very similar but not the same, and the genes of any member of the same species are also similar but not identical.


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Q: @tonych, do you support the claim of SatoNatomato the Expert: "Id say the blackbytes + Tor support makes Byteball more secure and anonymous than even Monero or Zcash." ?

A: I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.


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Q: I think only 20% max of premine can be held by the dev to get listed.

Tonych may be able to make them one of the multisig holders that control the rest ..so they perhaps would list it then.

This needs to be done then.  Bigger exchanges likely have similar requirements.  If byteball is just listed on one small, obscure exchange for another year or however long it takes to distribute the rest potential growth will really be obstructed.

Tonych any plans to address this limitation?


A: So far, no exchange has told me that they have any issues with the undistributed coins.


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Q: why does the OS X app try to connect to google?

plus.google.com TCP-Port 443 (https)


A: What makes you think so?
There are no references to any sites (except the default hub) in the source code.


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Q: Will there be a way to backup private assets via a seed in the future?

I love paper wallets and it's a shame I can't make one for Blackbytes!


A: Impossible by design.  Too much information to fit on piece of paper.


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Q: Sent my transaction from my bitgo wallet and received this message from Transaction bot

I received 0.0015 BTC from 3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D but this transaction looks like it was sent from an exchange, which is not allowed. Please send BTC only from a wallet that you own private keys for. If you think it was a mistake, please contact tonych@byteball.org

why do they think its an exchange?


A: I already replied you by email:

See here https://blockchain.info/address/3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D, there are too many outputs that’s why we detect it as an exchange (transactions sent from regular wallet usually have 2 outputs).  Please use a wallet where you control the private keys.


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Q: How much data are we talking about?

If you can store the right amount of data on a blockchain/DAG, you can store an encrypted backup there. Then, all you'd need would be
a) the passphrase/seed to decrypt the data
b) some means to find the relevant data on the blockchain/DAG.

You wouldn't need a dedicated function for it, you could do it on your own. You could store it on some other blockchain as well, if you'd want to.

Obviously, you'd have to pay for the transaction when storing data, so this would probably be only suitable for long term holding.


A: It's megabytes, and you'll have to re-encrypt and store the data again every time it changes.
I'm afraid it would be too expensive to store your personal data in Byteball.  Byteball was designed to store data of social value: data that matters for all members of the ecosystem who transfer money-like assets to each other and need the database to track their origins and verify their validity.  When you are not using these features and only using plain storage, you are overpaying.
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Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2017, 02:27:08 AM »



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Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2017, 10:25:51 PM »
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Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2017, 08:55:51 PM »
Round two distribution stats from the Byteball dev, tonych in original post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg17820043#msg17820043

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The second round is now complete, bytes and blackbytes distributed.

Here are the exact numbers:

17,610.194028342 GB distributed (1.76% of total supply, +17.6% to the previous available supply).
New available supply: 117,610.194028342 GB.

86,658.346197160 GB were on linked addresses at snapshot time and eligible for receiving blackbytes.
37,176.880613233 new GBB (gigablackbytes) in circulation, out of which:
34,360.309831321 GBB distributed,
2,816.570781912 GBB go into the development fund.

Thank you everyone who participated, special thanks to those who supported our new community members and made their experience as smooth as possible, thank you the Transition Bot.

The next round is scheduled for the full moon of March (12 March 14:54 UTC), the conditions are exactly the same as in the 2nd round.

Meanwhile, we continue developing the Byteball ecosystem to bring the power of crypto to regular users.
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Do not forget, the next distribution round is scheduled for the full moon of March (12 March 14:54 UTC), the conditions are exactly the same as in the 2nd round.

https://byteball.org/
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From the original post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg18080683#msg18080683


Version 1.5 released https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases



It's the biggest update since the launch.  It enables conditional payments, which allow you to P2P exchange bytes vs blackbytes since today.  Much more in the next releases.

Read my Medium article about making P2P great again https://medium.com/byteball/making-p2p-great-again-fe9e20546a4a#.i6kj1ug99

Note that to bind your payment to a condition you must be connected in chat with the payee and click his address or accept a payment request.

Other updates in this release:
* Fixed frequent disconnects that might affect sync speed
* Small performance optimizations
* Multiple small bugs fixed

Please upgrade.  The wallet might start a bit longer than usual the first time after the upgrade, this is because it needs to upgrade the database, be patient. 

Be prepared for bugs since it is a big update (I guess you are already used to expecting this when you are into something new).
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From tonych, the byteball dev:

Important security update 1.5.1 https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases

It removes a XSS vulnerability that allowed remote code injection via specially constructed chat messages.  Thanks @portabella for discovering the bug.
The update also includes a minor performance improvement.

Upgrade is mandatory.

To protect those who didn't upgrade fast enough, I'll update the default hub to refuse connections from clients that run an old version
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Under 4 days left before the 3rd round of Byteball distribution. Connect your BTC address to participate and you will get 62.5 MB for every  you hold!


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BREAKING: The Byteball Community Fund was just announced!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg18115774#msg18115774
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Some more Q & A from the main post on BCT forums here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.0
Q = question from a poster.
A = answer from dev - tonych


Q: Is it planned to create a kind of development reference or maybe there is already a tutorial with which you can start? I have a developer background. That's why it can be very technical.
A: Start with this primer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1617816 and the whitepaper section about addresses.

Q: Forgot to ask. I am looking for a tutorial how to exchange Byteball for BlackByteball with the new feature in version 1.5. When I understand correctly, the new version of Byteball wallet offers this feature now.
Can you please create a post or a blog entry for that? I would be very grateful.

A: If someone writes a tutorial, we offer a 0.5GB or 5GBB bounty out of the community fund.

Q: But my point is you can't prevent in the wild people from creating convoluted smart contracts even with your intended to be simple declarative language. Do you really expect users to give a damn and look at the source code of the smart contract? Users demand features such as DAOs. So I don't think you can stop the developers from bastardizing yours as well. Preventing Turing-completeness is very difficult. This is why Bitcoin is very cautious to add new opcodes.
A: I can't stop them but hopefully most developers are smart enough to find the best tool for the purpose, and there is no lack of choice.  Even if they do create something convoluted against all odds, let's see if they find many users.

Q: Do you really expect users to give a damn and look at the source code of the smart contract?
A: I dare say yes, if we speak the user's language.  The nice thing about Byteball smart contracts is that they can be easily presented in user readable form:

This example is from my article https://medium.com/byteball/making-p2p-great-again-fe9e20546a4a#.3k1a7f5yo

Q: Although each executed instance of your language is not Turing-complete in isolation, the system of instances is Turing-complete because you have the ability to reference global memory in the form of the data feed. Thus you can still have scenarios of unbounded recursion and even live or dead locks.
Craig Wright had schooled Nick Szabo and Gregory Maxwell on this point also.
So you have not prevented hacks. And you have somewhat crippled the language compared to Solidarity. You may argue you've made the intent clearer, but when people write convoluted systems with this in order to achieve complex smart contracts by simulating Turing completeness, then it may end up more obfuscated than Solidarity. I really don't see your design strategy as the absolute panacea you seem to claim or imply.

A: There is a limit on the number of operations per smart contract, data feed lookups included.
It is not a panacea.  It is designed to meet the demands of regular users, and they are not convoluted, as the recent superresistant's example shows.
If you need convoluted, go with Solidity, but be extremely careful when you expose complex systems to regular users (unaccredited investors, if we consider investments context).  When users are exposed to complex systems that they don't fully understand and that can potentially harm them, the governments will want to "protect the consumer" -- by regulation.

Q: When I understand correctly, then conditional payments are like smart contracts, right? It is just another name for it isn't it?
A: Conditional payments is an application based on smart contracts.

Q: What i want to ask is:
- why chat messages are not the same
- sending another Bind payment will generate another subwallet?
- TX fees are doubled with this new feature, am i correct?
- Blackbytes balance of receiver wallet is splitted in GBB in main wallet +  GBB "Also" in smart wallet, why not total amount ?
A: How did you test?  Could it be that you had the same device on both sides of the trade?
Q: Main Device (PC) has 2 wallets , default wallet and Multisig (1/2) wallet -created later
1 Pc sending GBB + 1 Android mobile receinving GBB multisig wallet (1/2)
repeated test (5 GB for 1000 bytes), this time chat  message says "payment 2364 bytes" , again 0.48 GB moved in a new address

A: That's what I expected - your PC was on both sides of the trade and it had difficulty interpreting the payment that had its addresses as both sender and receiver.

Q: - TX fees are doubled with this new feature, am i correct?
A: There are 3 transactions in total, if that's what you are asking about.
Q: agree about 3 transaction, why the third is not automatic?
A: The wallet never signs transactions on your behalf without your explicit request.

Q: - Blackbytes balance of receiver wallet is splitted in GBB in main wallet +  GBB "Also" in smart wallet, why not total amount ?
A: Because spending of smart wallet is constrained by the smart contract conditions.  You might be not able yet or already not able to spend from it.
If you can spend from it, you move its balance to your main wallet, this is the 3rd and final transaction.


Q: What happens if all 12 witnesses fell under DDoS attack? Will network stuck?
A: Their IP addresses are not publicly known, so it is not easy to learn what to attack in the first place.  Even if DDoSed, a witness can quickly move to a new IP.

Q: I have plans to move my wallet to another device. Do I need to complete a full sync on the new device before restoring from full backup?
A: No, you don't, you can move it half-synced.

Q: The PC I'm moving my wallet to has never had any version of byteball software, so I'm syncing from scratch. It took about 12 hours to get to 69% and then it was stuck on 69% for about five hours. At this point, I closed the wallet and re-opened to see if it would help get me over this 69% hump. The wallet is back at 69% and it's been stuck for approximately six hours. Is this normal for a new install?
The PC I've been using since the initial 12/25 distro never became stuck at any point while syncing. Although, I was opening my wallet daily, since 12/25, so it may have never got stuck because I was syncing regularly.
Any insight would be appreciated

A: This is not normal. Your cpu and disk usage should normally be high during sync.  If it is not, something is wrong, a restart usually helps.
You don't need to sync the 2nd PC before moving.  As far as I understand, you already have a fully synced wallet on the 1st PC and since you are doing full backup that contains the entire database, you'll get a fully synced wallet after restore.  The old data on the 2nd PC will be deleted during restore anyway.

Q: Does adding more byteball-hubs help the network process more transactions? Does a byteball-relay also help, but just doesnt store temporarily any private-messages like a hub does?
A: Just a little bit, as much as it helps distribute the load created by catching up nodes.
What the hub/relay are more useful for is their help in propagation of new transactions and in reliability.


Q: Why is Byteball called Byte on Bitsquare and not Byteball?
A: Byteball is a platform, Bytes is a currency.  Same as Ethereum/Ether.

Q: I guess the upper practical limit is the 12 witnesses, how many transactions they can see (bot dont need to see it at the same time) and post to each other and append to the database, to the main chain.
A: Wrong.  Witnesses don't do any more work than any other full node, they are not special with respect to TPS, and they are not a limiting factor in any way.

Q: There is nothing stopping you from making really a massive amounts of transactions on your own chain - and have it merged to the Main Chain when posting it for the witnesses to see. As long as you didnt double-spend, the verification of which witnesses do takes little time compared to what you spend in making the transactions, if all is fine, your chain of massive amount of txs will be in the main chain.
A: Again, this implies that it is witnesses who are doing verification and detect double-spends.  Wrong - every full node does it in exactly the same way.
We use witnesses only to establish order of events by looking back in history.


Q: Thanks for clarifying that. The other concern that keeps coming to my mind is this: what happens if 2 or more of the 12 witnesses goes down (offline) for various reasons (hardware mulfunction, operator not interested in running it anymore, government seizure etc.). Will this cause any network disruption? If yes, what kind of disruptions would that be?
A: As long as the majority (7 out of 12) of witnesses are online and behave honestly, the network is healthy.

Q: Finally some voice of reason. I felt so lonely with my arguments among all "hodl, to the moon etc." mindless cheerleaders. Thanks for that. It would be nice to hear from tonych what is his plan (if any) for relinquishing control over witnesses and breaking down the current one man cartel. It's obvious that it's very early to talk about that but some plan needs to be outlined if the system is to be considered in the future something more than privately controlled currency by one man. It's so centralized at the moment that the wallet "decentralized value" slogan sounds like a joke.
A: That's a valid concern and freezal got it right: the network had to start centralized and no one's showed up yet with the needed reputation and credibility.  I'm going to use every opportunity to relinquish control over 11 out of 12 witnesses in favor of reputable individuals/organizations/companies that are willing to be part of the network.  That would make the network only stronger thanks to both their involvement and the network becoming more decentralized.
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Byteball round 3 distribution happens March 12 at 14:54PM UTC



What you need to know

What's Byteball's website address?
You can find the Byteball website at https://byteball.org/

Does it have a whitepaper?
Boy, does it ever! A very robust 49 page whitepaper can be found here: https://byteball.org/Byteball.pdf

What were the stats of the last distribution round?   
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The second round is now complete, bytes and blackbytes distributed.   

Here are the exact numbers:

17,610.194028342 GB distributed (1.76% of total supply, +17.6% to the previous available supply).
New available supply: 117,610.194028342 GB.

86,658.346197160 GB were on linked addresses at snapshot time and eligible for receiving blackbytes.
37,176.880613233 new GBB (gigablackbytes) in circulation, out of which:
34,360.309831321 GBB distributed,
2,816.570781912 GBB go into the development fund.

Where can i see the amount linked for round 3?
You can check out the transition bot to see current total linked, and the transition rate: http://transition.byteball.org/

How do I participate in this distribution round?
Alfred has made a great and easy to follow step-by-step guide here: http://dailybyteball.blogspot.com/2017/03/participation-in-byteball-distribution.html

How do I link my BTC address?
Alfred has made a great and easy to follow step-by-step guide here: http://dailybyteball.blogspot.com/2017/03/how-to-link-bitcoin-address-for.html

Help! I'm not sure what to do and time is running out!?
Do not worry! Hop in the Byteball slack here: http://slack.byteball.org/
Once you are in, join the #helpdesk channel. You will find many community members here willing to help out those who are new to Byteball!


Then what am i waiting for?
Absolutely nothing! Go to http://slack.byteball.org/ and get started ASAP, well under a day remains to get set up!

But seriously folks, it's well worth your time to get your share of the Byteball distribution. Less than 17hrs remain to link up and get ready!
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From this post by dev tonych: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg18177601#msg18177601


Distribution of bytes and blackbytes is complete.


Bytes:
19,832.186424596 GB distributed.  New available supply is 137,442.380452938 GB.


Blackbytes:
36,779.346125354 GBB (giga-blackbytes) distributed
5,088.382635611 GBB added to the community fund (due to some bytes not being on the linked addresses)


The 4th round is scheduled for the Full Moon of April: Apr 11, 2017 at 06:08 UTC.


The rules stay the same:
BTC to bytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 62.5 MB (0.0625 GB)
BTC to blackbytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 2.1111 * 62.5 million blackbytes (money supply of blackbytes is 2.1111 times more than that of bytes)
Bytes to bytes: 1 byte on any Byteball address gives you 0.1 new bytes
Bytes to blackbytes: 1 byte on linked Byteball address gives you 0.21111 blackbytes


Between the rounds, expect more steps towards making P2P great again (if you missed the first step, see https://medium.com/byteball/making-p2p-great-again-fe9e20546a4a#.snr320140).
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Check out the slick new Byteball website, it's very user friendly! Spread the word to your friends in the crypto-community and outside of it too! The 4th round of distribution is coming up:


Rnd. 4 Full Moon of April: Apr 11, 2017 at 06:08 UTC






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Byteball version 1.6 released, now with payments bound to real world events,  registered by oracles: GitHub(click me)




Byteball dev tonych has also made a couple of recent blog posts that are well worth your time to read. You can get to them via the links below:


Making P2P Great Again
Making P2P Great Again, Episode II: Bitcoin Exchange


One such oracle is already running and allows to P2P exchange bytes (or blackbytes or any other Byteball currency) vs bitcoins. 


The source code of the oracle is at https://github.com/byteball/btc-oracle.


The possibilities offered by the payments bound to oracle-posted events are huge, independent developers are welcome to add their own oracles that enable other P2P services.  See the above Medium article for some ideas.


Other updates in this release:
* Back button in Android now works correctly
* Chinese translation (partial)
* List of balances by addresses in settings (for those who like to look under the hood)
* After receiving a "message encrypted to unknown key" the undecipherable message is now deleted and the error does not pop up the next time
* Performance improvements


The first time you start the app after the upgrade, it may be slow to start as it creates new indexes for better performance.


Please upgrade.  If you run a full client (GUI or headless), you'll have to upgrade because of a bug in code that was never visited before but the first time the new functionality is used will trigger the bug.
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Just a reminder to link up before round 4 Byteball distribution!
The 4th round is scheduled for the Full Moon of April: Apr 11, 2017 at 06:08 UTC.


The rules stay the same:
BTC to bytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 62.5 MB (0.0625 GB)
BTC to blackbytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 2.1111 62.5 million blackbytes (money supply of blackbytes is 2.1111 times more than that of bytes)
Bytes to bytes: 1 byte on any Byteball address gives you 0.1 new bytes
Bytes to blackbytes: 1 byte on linked Byteball address gives you 0.21111 blackbytes


Go to the website to get started: https://byteball.org/
If you have any questions join slack: http://slack.byteball.org/
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